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Bristlebane · Jun 21, 2009, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Without saying too much what's already been said, I'll just show my suggestion with a photoshopped example:

That's right, a simple party filter! No need for advanced auction houses or other complicated solutions, all you need is a simple party search filter. Any programmer should be able to do this in 2 minutes, no server code changes or additional data storage required.

MagmaRed · Jun 21, 2009, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Still end up with people spelling things wrong. Tome may seem a simple word, but I often see people say "tomb" or even "time". Then you get into items with more difficult spelling like Voltaic Spears and you get them saying "Voltic", "Voltaix", etc.

May seem like a simple thing to do, but I doubt it would work nearly as well as you expect. And since it really doesn't improve the piss poor trading options we have I'll refrain from /signing. If it could be done well, it wouldn't hurt, but I don't think it will really do much, and I doubt it can be done without serious time involved coding and testing it.

Bristlebane · Jun 21, 2009, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Since it's highly unlikely we'll ever see a better trade system, the best bets are on the most simple ones. Sure, there might be people spelling things wrong, but they can just continue doing what they've always done. For the majority of people who just want to see specific trades, it should be simple enough.

Filter on 'wts', 'wtb', 'tome', 'dye', anything. If you suspect lots of people spell 'tome' wrong, just check 'tomb' after ;-)

This idea adds no negative impact on current system, it requires no serverside coding, and it's the simplest possible solution to this problem that with some luck.. Anet might even do it.

I would of course rather see a more advanced solution like an Auction House, but that's a waste of time since we're never gonna see that in GW1.

the Puppeteer · Jun 21, 2009, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Still end up with people spelling things wrong. Tome may seem a simple word, but I often see people say "tomb" or even "time". Then you get into items with more difficult spelling like Voltaic Spears and you get them saying "Voltic", "Voltaix", etc.

search for "volt" then

MagmaRed · Jun 21, 2009, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by the Puppeteer

search for "volt" then

I won't even try to cover all the posibilities, but consider things like Bone Dragon Staff that many people abbreviate with BDS. Yes, it can be done, but not as easily as the OP believes, and even if it was done, it would take considerable time and testing. I'd rather Anet put that time into GW2, bug fixes, skill updates, and other 'simple' things like armor clipping issues.

Smurf Minions · Jun 21, 2009, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by the Puppeteer

search for "volt" then

Or spear.

This is one of those suggestions that are easy to implant and are just amazing useful to a LOT of the guild wars community.

Madeentje · Jun 21, 2009, 06:47 PM // 18:47

You could also use a multiple filter. So you can search for different things at the same time, like: BDS; Bone Dragon Staff. I like the idea, it's actually the point of searching, no?? They should've done this 2.5 years ago, when they introduced Party Search (It was 2.5 years ago, right? Or was it 1.5 years, I'm sure it was during Wintersday though).

Bob Slydell · Jun 21, 2009, 06:54 PM // 18:54

I think this can be a great addition along with making party search entires you can publish a lot longer as well.

Betrayer of Wind · Jun 21, 2009, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Thats a very easy and fast thing to implement,although it'll only make it easier to find the items u want on kamadam/LA dists and groups for HA on 2x weekends...
I dont think its necessary,but wouldnt hurt either.

Stop The Storm · Jun 21, 2009, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by Smurf Minions

Or spear.

This is one of those suggestions that are easy to implant and are just amazing useful to a LOT of the guild wars community.

+1

think its a great idea, i hate scrolling through 150 wts/wtb/spam lists looking for one paticular item

Tenebrae · Jun 21, 2009, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

I won't even try to cover all the posibilities, but consider things like Bone Dragon Staff that many people abbreviate with BDS. Yes, it can be done, but not as easily as the OP believes, and even if it was done, it would take considerable time and testing. I'd rather Anet put that time into GW2, bug fixes, skill updates, and other 'simple' things like armor clipping issues.

You are misunderstanding the system. That kind of mistakes have nothing to do with it . You are considering X persons that making mistakes or not knowing the meaning of BDS or VDS or FDS wont be able to get what they want but dont forget about those 10000X persons that WILL be able to filter succesfully and find what they want.

ofc a BIG /SIGNED

Bristlebane · Jun 21, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32

The beauty of this is that it can also be done 100% on the client side. No need to change server code, no data storage, no server processing power generating even more lag. In fact this could help reduce lag in GW:

+ With 1000's of people not having to spam WTB/WTS's because they could find things easier using a filter
+ there would be less bandwidth usage
+ less server processing, which is never a bad thing.
+ less frustrated people trying to sell or buy simple things.
+ less 'Auction House' ideas on Guru (well, maybe).

disarm76 · Jun 21, 2009, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Still end up with people spelling things wrong. Tome may seem a simple word, but I often see people say "tomb" or even "time". Then you get into items with more difficult spelling like Voltaic Spears and you get them saying "Voltic", "Voltaix", etc.

If there is a filter people might try a bit harder to spell things right, after all they want to sell their stuff.

Aljasha · Jun 22, 2009, 12:57 PM // 12:57

/signed for obvious reasons. i like filters.

MithranArkanere · Jun 22, 2009, 02:42 PM // 14:42

Sine it would be something the client, and NOT the server has to do, it's something completely lag free, but people don't always use the proper names so if they start writing 'leet tme' or acronyms there it goes all to waste.

So, this should be added along a way to 'tag' items in some way, so they appear in the party search regardless of language.

For example, 'tag' a stack of 10 ecto, and it's sent to the search panel as something similiar to the skill templates: [item ID;item amount].
People would see [10 Globs of Ectoplasm] in a different color, but in their own language.
That way has also the good thing of using less characters, so people would be able to put more stuff in there.

Then searching would be easier too, since when you properly write 'Chalice of Diessa' you wil always find it, and you won't have to look also for "Diesa", "Dieza", "Xalize" or the translation in all possible languages people play, such as spanish or japanese.

Bristlebane · Jun 22, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48

sadly 'tags' would require both client as well as server upgrades which would drastically reduce the chance of ever seeing this feature. But I'm just happy for any party search improvements as the current one is just too crude. Even MMO games 6-8 years before Guild Wars had better trade options (EQ, UO etc.)

dusanyu · Jun 22, 2009, 09:11 PM // 21:11

heh Almost a Good idea but lets use the most nerve grating example

I am looking for an elite tome. so I filter the word "elite" and I still miss half of the options because, people insist on using "leet." Sad thing is spelling it properly is one letter longer, one letter to not look illiterate is it that hard?

squiros · Jun 22, 2009, 09:16 PM // 21:16

/signed

people who use 'lt t0m3s' won't get past the filter. so it is in the best interest of the seller to use standard wording, otherwise, their business will drastically suffer. people will eventually figure out that they need to comply with the standard or risk not being seen at all. if this system can both standardize people's offers and improve people's ability to spell, then it's a godsend.

SimplyAmazing · Jun 22, 2009, 09:41 PM // 21:41

/signed
People who spell stuff wrong are on their own. And usually people who mis-spell often are new to the game and over price stuff, like elite sin tomb for 10k. Mini Boon Dragon for 100+15 etc, etc.

glacialphoenix · Jun 22, 2009, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Yes please. (Along with the oft-suggested lengthening party search window.)

It's true it won't be perfect, but, hey. If you know that people write 'leet tome' or 'leet tomb' or whatever instead of 'elite tome', you can run a search on it.

And if people are going to sit in Kamadan all day and shout ~*~WTS LEET NEC TOMB~*~ - well, if nobody bothers to decipher wtf you're saying, it's your problem. A filter would make things a lot easier, especially in crowded areas like Kamadan where the party trade window is constantly refreshing thanks to repeated spamming.